paul ryan's not hard right. ryan is telling the truth about a medicare and medicaid social security system that's going bankrupt and you know it. >> yeah, but what paul ryan does with that money doesn't put it into deficit reduction which you've been arguing for. he puts it all into tax cuts for the wealthy. >> well, the president didn't put $716 billion that he took out of medicare into deficit reduction. he put it into obamacare. isn't that just as reckless? >> no. because the president had -- we were dealing with health care at the time. the president will put significant medicare savings and tax savings, revenue increases, into deficit reduction. the hard right -- and i believe paul ryan is part of that hard right -- i think you've given him a pass. >> i disagree. >> i know you do. but his budget does not reduce the deficit for 40 years and takes almost all the medicare money that he saves under his plan, give him credit for stepping up to the plate on that, and puts it -- and the hard thing for a republican